news there were actually people on planes when this happened. they're still sitting there. the airlines always struggle with this kind of stuff, sitting, waiting, can't get food or warner as they are reporting. what does this do for the industry going forward? >> it doesn't help. most people understand this is beyond their control so i don't think there's a problem with that but keep in mind there is a situation if this shooter was on the other side -- weapon, they're going to be pretty much, they're going to have to check everybody who is in that area right now. >> but, mike, we were talking about this too. you can't really stop someone from barging their way through the security area because tsa, from what i understand, those checkers, don't carry sidearms. if you wanted to run through, you could probably do that, couldn't you? >> you could. you wouldn't get very far. if you're real serious terrorist you don't have to put up with that. there are back doors to the airport, regardless tsa will tell you, wide open.